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Monday, July 13, 2009

Holy Crap! Did the Magic just keep Gortat?

It's all over twitter. Otis not waiting to Wednesday. Is keeping Gortat.

By matching he would not be allowed to be traded to Dallas for a minimum of a year. And could not trade Marcin without his permission for one year.

Wow. (if true)

Update: Sentinel Says It's True!!

2nd Update: Magic reportedly have called major sponsors to inform them of the move. Must be asking them for more money!

3rd Update: NBA.com Magic match Mavericks' offer to retain Gortat

This is an All-In move for winning it all in 2010. Now they are ten very flexible pieces! Four all-stars, 7 guys with Finals experience. And still holding that trade exception for January insurance.

Howard/Gortat/(Bass)

Lewis/Bass/Anderson

Pietrus/(Lewis)/(Carter)

Carter/(Pietrus)/Redick

Nelson/Johnson

14 Comments:

  • At 6:19 PM, Blogger Matt said…

    Calm down. That hasn't happened yet. For consolation see my posting on the earlier thread.

     
  • At 6:25 PM, Blogger Ken said…

    Mike Wilbon just mentioned it also as PTI was signing off..

     
  • At 6:55 PM, Blogger WeRDevos said…

    It's happened.

    Just a few minimum dollar contracts left to gather. I believe the league minimum is either 12 or 13.

    I'd guess it will be a couple of rookie PG and SGs who make under $400k each.

     
  • At 9:55 PM, Blogger Matt said…

    I guess if Gortat is smart, he should keep quiet and play hard while working towards earning a ring. His chances for becoming a starter on a contending team depends on how professional he would act while in Orlando, and may just come a year later than anticipated.

    This is a smart move by the Magic. However, I am not sure that Magic will keep him. The earlier reports that I had read were indicating that Magic cannot trade him before 3 months. Was it at one of WeRDevos' posting that the minimum time was mentioned a year? I don't know which minimum time is correct. The former scenario will give Magic a good opportunity to seek a starting quality, or just thereabout, PF by trading him. That would be my preference.

     
  • At 10:12 PM, Blogger WeRDevos said…

    According to ESPN a match creates two new rules. Gortat has a right to veto any trade through next season. And the Magic cannot trade Gortat to Dallas at any time next year.

    There is also complicated here are the rules:

    Base year compensation (BYC) prevents another salary cap loophole. Without BYC, a team over the salary cap that wants to trade a player, but can't because of the Traded Player exception (which says teams can't take back more than 125% of the salary they trade away), could just sign the player to a new contract that fits within the desired range, then do the trade. BYC says "if you re-sign a player and give him a big raise, then for a period of time his trade value will be lower than his actual salary."

    BYC defines the salary that's used to compare players for compliance under the Traded Player exception (see question number 68 for more information about the Traded Player exception). Usually the salary used for comparison is the player's actual salary. But under either of the following circumstances, a different salary is used when comparing salaries for trading purposes:

    * The team is over the salary cap, used the Larry Bird or Early Bird exception to re-sign the player, and the player received a raise greater than 20% (unless it's the minimum salary).
    * The team is over the salary cap, it extended the player's rookie scale contract, and the player received a raise greater than 20%.

    If either of the above apply, then the player is considered a base year player. A player remains a base year player for six months, or until June 30, whichever comes later. When trading a base year player, the salary used for comparison is the player's previous salary, or 50% of the first-year salary in his new contract, whichever is greater.

    So basically, the Magic can only trade Gortat this year for a player worth about half of his first year $5.8 million salary.

    HOWEVER! Here is where the Turkoglu trade may work out. It is possible for the Magic to trade Gortat for a player worth a range between $2.4 million and $3.6 million, plus take back a second player using the trade exception. The trade exception could not be combined with Gortat. Gortat will be a base line player until June 30, 2010 then can be traded straight up.

    Basically, unless the Magic are willing to do a Gortat for 2 players trade taking advantage of the exception, it's unlikely he will be traded and will be with the Magic for the year.

     
  • At 10:17 PM, Blogger WeRDevos said…

    When can a team trade a free agent it signs? Do they have to keep him forever?

    Generally, a player cannot be traded until three months after signing a contract or December 15th of that season, whichever is later.

    This rule is also in effect for Gortat. All in all, it makes it unlikely he will be traded this year. Although it could be done in certain cases.

    But the best interpretation is he was truly matched to chase a title this year.

    And you have to like that the franchise is acting this way.

     
  • At 10:20 PM, Blogger WeRDevos said…

    I liked the Salary Cap FAQ site I just reference so I permanently put it in the side links.

     
  • At 12:38 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Dallas fan here

    If I were in Orlando, I would agree matching the contract is a good sign. The team is going all out for another run. And now you have insurance since Barkley keeps pulling Dwight's hamstring in the video game LOL.

    In Dallas, opinions are mixed. Some are really upset, others say no big deal. Candidly, I only saw Gortat play a bit. He struck me as solid, but I also saw him get beat on plays that he should not have. Would have been nice to have, but not the end of the world.

    Good luck.

     
  • At 1:55 AM, Blogger Mike from Illinois said…

    I know Gortat is disappointed now, because he won't get the playing time that he would have gotten with the Mavericks, but he is a professional and I know he will do the best he can in however many minutes he plays backing up D12 to help the Magic win the championship next season.

    Let's see... it was June 14th that the Magic lost the championship to the Lakers; look at all that has happened with the Magic in the last month, wow; without a doubt the most exciting off-season month in the history of the Magic.

     
  • At 1:58 AM, Blogger Mike from Illinois said…

    Thanks for all the salary cap info WeRDevos... as you said, it gets complicated, but you were able to simplify it pretty good.

     
  • At 3:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    in my opinion.orlando busted his career in NBA

    for 5 years he will sit on his ass

    5 years from now nobody will remember him

    5 years from now marcin will not have any offer from other clubs

     
  • At 11:14 AM, Anonymous Tom said…

    any move by this classless organization. Magic just ruined his career.


    but who really cares the magic have no shot at competing for a title the next few years. they are miles behind the Cavs (twin towers Z/Shaq with lebron) The Celts (the big 3 with the 'sheed. If i was a magic fan i would be happy if we could get the 3rd/4th seed for next seasons playoffs.

     
  • At 11:24 AM, Blogger Ken said…

    I'm sort of bummed that Gortat's agent says he is very disappointed about Orlando matching the Dallas offer. I may not like my job, but if they quadrupled my salary I think i could manage a smile. But i'm sure Gortat will take the $34 million and smile all the way to the bank no matter what team he is on. Right now, Gortat is seen as a backup to Howard, but i am wondering if the Magic are thinking of packaging him and their $8-9 million trade exception in some sort of deal in the future.. Oh, and thanks for the great explaination WRD..

     
  • At 11:45 AM, Blogger Big Figure said…

    Bout what i expected,otis playing with the media as usual. Matching for gortat just upgradaded our frontline back-ups from gortat & battie to gortat,anderson and bass. Thats a hell of a summer,we just got better as well as younger. And at the same time we went from having no true PF's to two true PF's. Hell of a job otis!

     

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