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Thursday, June 12, 2008

Magic's Report Card

Magic's loss to Detroit was embarrassing especially in the way they blew late leads and faded away in closing seconds. After loosing the fourth game by a close margin at home, Magic players were seen at bars and nightclubs instead of spending time in the gym getting ready for the next game. Dwight was, and has always been, an exception. The team leaders, coach, GM and captains alike, ought to establish strict rules on how players spend their times in between games as play-offs roll in.

With that prelude, I would like to summarily grade the players, the coach and the GM (not in that specific order) for the 2007-08 season:

Otis Smith:

Pros - Hiring Stan Van Gundy, signing Rashard Lewis and staying away from public speeches, if he could help it!

Cons - Billy Donovan's fiasco, mishandling the need for a legit starting PF, signing an unproven PG to a long term contract unnecessarily, failure to engage in trades to address the deficiencies partly due to bad signings (untradable players) and partly due to the lack of weight and clout.

GRADE: D-

Stan Van Gundy:

Pros - Consistent coaching style, maximum implementation of assets available with minor exceptions, passion and integrity, excellent players' relations and communication.

Cons - In-explainable use of players or lack thereof, average skill in developing new talents and occasional judgement lapses in game time situations.

GRADE: A-

Players:

PGs - Keyon has been the most consistent of the three PGs while Jameer and Carlos had many ups and downs. GRADES: Keyon - B+, Jameer - C+, Carlos - C.

SGs - The differences between Mo and Keith were insignificant, and none could be considered starting quality SGs. Mo performed above all expectations (credit goes to the coach), and Keith was solid in 3-point shooting. J.J. was not given enough opportunity to show what he is made of (knock on the coach). GRADES: Mo - B+, Keith - B+, J.J. - could not be rated due to the lack of playing time.

SFs - Hedo was outstanding and Mo fitted in nicely, as well. GRADES: Hedo - A-, Mo - has been graded before.

PFs - Rashard was as impressive as expected although out of position which had uninevitable effects for the long season. Brian overachieved and Marcin was hardly used. GRADES: Rashard - A, Brian - B, Marcin - could not be rated due to the lack of playing time.

Cs - Dwight was spectacular as he took his game to a new level (Patrick's influence could not be underestimated). Adonal was average and performed as expected while James was hardly used. GRADES: Dwight - A, Adonal - C+, James could not be rated due to the lack of playing time.

22 Comments:

  • At 3:38 AM, Blogger Mike from Illinois said…

    For the most part, Matt, I agree with your grades and analysis, but I disagree with you sharply about your assessment of GM Otis Smith.

    I thought you were really harsh on Otis, giving him a "D-". You failed to mention his shrewd trade getting Mo Evans and Brian Cook from the Lakers for the promising but oft-injured Trevor Ariza. Evans was solid as the starting SG, while Cook proved to be a spark off the bench for several games before his season-ending injury.

    I do question Smith's long-term contract signing of Nelson and the money that was given to him, but if Jameer can play a whole season like he played in the playoffs, that would be a huge boost for the Magic.

    You gave Smith credit for hiring Stan Van Gundy and signing Rashard Lewis, and you gave both SVG and Lewis an "A", so I don't understand the "D-" grade for Smith.

    Sure, Otis had his faults as you mentioned, but he deserves better than a D- for what the Magic accomplished this season... a 53 win season and advancement into the second round of the playoffs for the first time in 12 years. Definite progress was made.

    This will be a challenging off-season for Smith as he tries to add the right players to make the Magic a legit threat to win the East next season.

     
  • At 11:21 AM, Blogger Big Figure said…

    Yeah i totally agree mike. Not understanding how anyone can blame otis for billy the kid being a coward and not wanting to leave the easy life that is college basketball,what was otis's fault in that? Wasnt billy the kid the hotest coach on the market? Then after losing BD he stepped up and hired a better more experienced coach. We should be giving him credit for that not taking any away,he signed two of the hotest coaches on the market in one off-season...LOL. Then no one could have predicted losing battie before the season,so using lewis at PF was the only answer at getting better (which we did record wise). Trying to add someone at the trade deadline wouldnt have worked either,the only guys out there to be had at that late a date were chris webber and p.j. brown which wasnt any better than what we had. Signing jameer i would agree with wasnt needed,but at the same time just like mike said if jameer plays like he did in the play-offs next year he'll be worth the money. I think the D grade stands for darko which is where i think your true anger for otis lies,whatever the case i would grade otis with a B. There's absolutely no way a division winning-53 win team-that made it to the second round of the play-offs could have the architect graded so low,so i would have to respectfully disagree also with your assessment of GM otis smith,and also say that the issue's brought up in this forum regarding smith were good calls on his behalf from my point of view.

     
  • At 11:05 PM, Blogger Mike from Illinois said…

    Big Figure brings up a good point about the Billy Donovan situation with the Magic. It's not fair to blame Otis Smith for what happened, as I believe just about every Magic fan was very excited about the hiring of Donovan to coach the team until Donovan's sudden change of heart wanting to get out of the contract and go back to UF.

    Bottom line is the right coach for the team in Stan Van Gundy was eventually hired.

     
  • At 12:34 AM, Blogger Matt said…

    That is my personal views on Otis Smith, and as you know I don't think very highly of him. Allow me to clarify just a few points:

    1 - In most professional assessments, since a basic threshold is expected, most often what have been accomplished score less points that what have not.

    2 - The Billy Donovan fiasco should be partly blamed on the Magic's management since they rushed the kind to put his John Hancock on the contract which in return backfired on them. As for hiring SVG, nobody gets any credit for it since the man wanted to stay in Florida, and in fact rushed back from Sacramento to sign with the Magic.

    3 - The trade for Mo Evans and Brian Cook did not look good on the paper. As I stressed before, we inherited Cook's 3.5 mil contract that LA wanted to dump plus we got a journeyman in Evans who has been around quite a bit but not a starting quality SG. In fact, Keith and Mo are so similar that either one could have started for the Magic. Having that said, due to brilliant coaching of SVG, both these guys overachieved but I don't think that could have been anticipated in advance.

    4 - As for trades or lack thereof, great GMs make trades not just out of what is available but what could become available. Example: the trade for Pau Gasol that makes Lakers a finalist in a stroke of genius. We were heavy on the back-court by light upfront, and Otis could not do diddly do about it because of bad trades and signings. Who wanted Jameer or Brian or one of the shooting guards? Hedo was the only attractive bait but the Magic could risk losing him although Rashard could have been moved to his natural position of SF.

     
  • At 12:38 AM, Blogger Matt said…

    That is my personal views on Otis Smith, and as you know I don't think very highly of him. Allow me to clarify just a few points:

    1 - In most professional assessments, since a basic threshold is expected, most often what have been accomplished score less points that what have not.

    2 - The Billy Donovan fiasco should be partly blamed on the Magic's management since they rushed the kind to put his John Hancock on the contract which in return backfired on them. As for hiring SVG, nobody gets any credit for it since the man wanted to stay in Florida, and in fact rushed back from Sacramento to sign with the Magic.

    3 - The trade for Mo Evans and Brian Cook did not look good on the paper. As I stressed before, we inherited Cook's 3.5 mil contract that LA wanted to dump plus we got a journeyman in Evans who has been around quite a bit but not a starting quality SG. In fact, Keith and Mo are so similar that either one could have started for the Magic. Having that said, due to brilliant coaching of SVG, both these guys overachieved but I don't think that could have been anticipated in advance.

    4 - As for trades or lack thereof, great GMs make trades not just out of what is available but what could become available. Example: the trade for Pau Gasol that makes Lakers a finalist in a stroke of genius. We were heavy on the back-court but light upfront, and Otis could not do diddly do about it because of bad trades and signings. Who wanted Jameer or Brian or one of the shooting guards? Hedo was the only attractive bait but the Magic couldn't risk losing him although Rashard could have been moved to his natural position of SF.

     
  • At 11:21 AM, Blogger Big Figure said…

    Matt your views are excepted and respected,just not agreed with which im sure your fine with. (1)At the same time i cant help but think in most professional assessments,53 wins,a division championship and a second round play-off appearance is getting the job done very well. (2)Whether or not the magic may or may not have rushed the kid into signing something (which is pure speculation because he was on the market for months reported to have been talking with other teams),he still could have said NO to the job taking any fault away from the magic. (3)Who cares if the trade for mo and brian looked good on paper,it looked good on the court. Brian proved to be worth the money and when he was healthy he was an important part to our rotation and the way we wanted to play,his three's were priceless at the end of the season when we were beating teams handily and securing our play-off position and as i've written previously i think we beat the pistons if cook was available. Then i completely disagree with keith and mo evans,without mo evans we arent as good,without mo evans being the starter we arent as good. Keith and Mo are built similarly but that's where the comparison's end. let me explain. SVG noticed early that keith bogans is tough and a great outside shooter but lacks athletism to a certain extent. On the other hand mo isnt as tough,but has supreme hops which is more important to a starting line-up,how many times did we see mo beat someone down the floor for a two handed monster dunk,or go baseline right past a defender to dunk on someone's center,plenty of times which is why mo became starter early in the season and the same reason keith didnt get his position back. Without this trade the magic dont get past the first round of the play-offs and any smart basketball mind will tell you mo evans was our best choice as a starter and only choice,keith isnt good enough athletically to start. Otis made a brillant trade when it comes to production,just look at the numbers they put up here versus an often injured trevor ariza,it aint even close. Great trade both players worth every penny. (4) The lack of trades was smart for this year,brand new coach,brand new max player,and a young team otis wanted to see what he had and breaking up the team just to make a splash like the lakers isnt smart,especailly since everyone else in the league was surprised memphis made such a blunder of a mistake making that deal,there werent any blunders out there for the magic. As i said before,matt your a master of eloquence and your opinion is respected just not agreed with.

     
  • At 12:21 PM, Blogger Matt said…

    I think your GM might have the greatest discrepancy between what your fans think and leaguewide perception. I'm a Rockets fan, so I'll give you my take.

    1) Alot people credit Otis for a 53 win season, etc... I don't think thats a good standard. Alot of things go into wins and losses, and attributing them to a GM for 1 season probably isn't the thing to do. *However, over the course of several seasons this is a reasonable standard.

    For example, just look at the suns, I think most people will agree that the shaq trade was a bad deal for them. Well they won alot games in the west and made the playoffs, so Kerr is a good GM right?

    Another guy I think of is GM Kevin Mchale. Not to say Otis is that bad. However, Just because you have 1 great player, who gets you wins year after year, does not make you a great GM.

    2) Non on to the actual moves. Jameer's extension in my mind was absolutely terrible. You guys shouldn't try to justify it. How can you not see that he has reached his peak? His not going to magically grow or get more athletic. He is 26??? Why extend him early- What are the odds, given his age, athleticism, height that he will have a breakout year.

    You might think thats harsh. But its the truth. I'm not hatin on Nelson as much as, I'm sayin he is what he is and should be valued accordinly. I don't think the magic can go much further without getting an upgrade at their guard positions, where will that come from? I'll get to the money part in a second.

    2) Otis overpaid for Rashard. Perfect example of a good GM trading with a below average/poor GM.

    Why is this important? Most fans would say were already over the cap (And going to be over for awhile), so overpaying for guys like Rashard/Nelson doesn't really matter. Well, if your the LA Lakers, NY Knicks, or the Denver Nuggets that might be true. Those to my knowledge are the only teams with have pretty much no reservations about going into the luxury tax. In fact, many teams do stupid deals (Suns), won't do deals (Bulls) to avoid the tax. The Warriors are in trouble this offseason with it.

    3) I like the pickup for SVG. But why go after a college coach. And No, Donovan doesn't seem to me to be an exception to the rule.

    4) Other notes, I think Howard combined with Lewis/Turk shooting makes J Nelson look better than he really is. Sorry to kill him again, me thinks he is just vastly overvalued.

    You can't credit Otis for Howard's big improvement, which is large reason IMO for the win increase.

    Didn't happen this year- but was Otis behind the selection of JJ Reddick? Maybe he just has thing for guys who old, underathletic, undersized coming out of college.

    Regardless of what you thought, JJ was going to be as a prospect, How could you say, Hmm for my backcourt of the future I going to pair my undersized, underathletic PG Nelson with another undersized, underathletic SG? Makes perfect sense right.

     
  • At 9:22 PM, Blogger Big Figure said…

    Well,welcome to the blog matt #2. Your opinion's are noted,and sorry for the response as i thought i was talking to matt that has been a long time member of this blog. But now that we have gotten our points across ill just say we can agree to disagree. The perception that we as fans think that otis is perfect is far from the truth,i just dont think that he is as bad as some try and make him seem. Otis has only had sole control for a short time so most of the things (like the vasquez and redick picks) that look bad have to be blame on the entire management staff at that time because they all played a part in who we picked.

     
  • At 4:16 AM, Blogger Mike from Illinois said…

    To me, one of the most important things in grading a GM of a sports team is seeing if progress was made from one year to the next, and I think anyone can see that definite progress was made by the Magic this past season going from 40 wins to 53 wins and advancement to the second round of the playoffs.

    Sure, Otis Smith shouldn't get all the credit for that, but just the same, he also doesn't deserve a "D-".

    Matt, knowing how you feel about Otis, it will probably take nothing less than an Eastern Conference championship for the Magic in order for you to give Smith a grade of anything higher than a "D".

    To the Matt who's a Rockets fan... I think you were a little harsh on Jameer Nelson. In 10 playoff games, he averaged 16.2 ppg on 50.4% FG shooting, including 48.8% on 3 PT shooting. He averaged 4.7 assists to 2.1 turnovers for a respectable AST/TO ratio.

    I realize that Smith probably gave Nelson too much money last year with the contract extension, but Nelson's only 26 years old and just reaching his prime. Who's to say he won't get better? He showed how well he can play in the playoffs.

    Remember, Jameer went through a very traumatic time last year with the sudden passing of his father before the season started.

    Also, some thoughts on Keith Bogans/ Mo Evans... I would give Evans a higher grade than Bogans. True, they are similar in many ways, but Evans shot 48.1% from the field (38.3% on threes), compared to 41.0% (36.2% on threes) for Bogans.

    As Big Figure pointed out, Evans is more well-rounded offensively than Bogans. Evans attempted 545 FGs last season, of which 209 were 3 PT FG attempts. Bogans, meanwhile, attempted 588 FGs last season, of which an eye-opening 409 were 3 PT FG attempts. 38.3% of Evans' FG attempts were 3 PT shots, while 69.6% of Bogans' FG attempts were 3 PT shots, so that stat shows Evans had much more offensive versatility.

    Bogans did bring things like toughness and defense off the bench, but I agree with Big Figure in that the Magic probably don't do as well as they did if Evans didn't start, and credit goes to SVG for starting Evans.

     
  • At 11:15 AM, Blogger Matt said…

    Matt from IL

    This concept that Otis is somehow the main reason the magic won 53 games is untrue. The main reason for their improvement was the improvement of D Howard (no credit there) and the addition of R Lewis (little credit there). As I recall, Rashard was very intent on signing with the Magic from the beginning, and the only teams with enough money to sign him without a sign/trade were Bobcats, Bucks, and Magic.

    Jameer
    I'm not saying its not possible, I'm just saying its very unlikely. I honestly can't think of many guards who improve much after 26. 2 that come to mind are Steve Nash, and Chauncey Billups. For Nash the rule changes with handchecking in 03 I think helped him more than anything.

    Jameer's main weaknesses come from physical limitations, which are extremely difficult/impossible to improve upon. So exactly in what area will he get better?

    The Evans/Cook/Ariza move was a wash to me. You mainly got a position change- Ariza wasn't going to get much burn with Turk/Lewis in front of him. So from that point it worked out well, but you gave away potential for solid production. Ariza's 22 so he legimately can still improve alot. At this point, I would lean more towards potential if I'm building the Magic. You can always sign solid players for all or part of the mid-level, assuming your owner is willing to spend the money (see luxury tax). It much harder to come by good, young prospects that have the potential to become good/great players at this point if your the magic, because your not drafting high enough, and trading for such players is nearly as unlikely.

     
  • At 1:56 PM, Blogger Big Figure said…

    Who said otis was the main reason for the magic's improvement? The main reason the magic's improved was SVG (a coach with a clue),now granted SVG did want to coach here,but otis stills gets some credit for being the GM that got it right here in orlando when it comes to the coaches we've hired,he hired SVG,SVG proved to be a good hire,so otis gets the credit for making the right choice,he could've F'd it up. We as fans are smart enough to know though that otis created salary cap space by dumping players early (cato,francis)to set his team up for a summer where rashard lewis would be available,wasnt that smart on his part? I mean c'mon,giving him little credit for signing rashard is absurd. Otis SHOULD get a ton of credit for being the architect that put it all together,two years ago when things werent as clear within the landscape of where this franchise was going otis made some brilliant moves to put us in the position to be where we are now,a 53 game winning-division champ thats only going to get better. (note:trading away steve francis's contract should get him a life-time acheivement award). And when it comes to jameer,he can improve his regular season play. We dont need him to grow any,or for him to get super athletic,we just need the jameer that was deadly from three point range and ran the team nicely which was a huge surprise during the playoffs,jameer basically showed against the pistons that he could score with billups which i dont think anyone thought he could do,even before billups got injured jameer was out scoring him. The point is that all we need from jameer is that player,if we get that player all REGULAR season the magic can lock up a 2 seed this time and play at home the first two rounds,which in that scenario (home court advantage) i think the magic make it to the eastern finals as long as everyone is relatively healthy. Rocket matt,were fine with the jameer that showed up for these play-offs. Calling the evans/cook trade for ariza a wash is just laughable,without evans and cook the magic are a shell of themselves. So your saying trevor wouldve given us the production of evans and cook had he stayed???? Cook proved to be our best big off the bench and mo evans proved to be our best SG,how could that be a wash when trevor wasnt even in our rotation? We got two players that seriously contributed,LA got a often injured player(that got injured just like clockwork in LA) with defensive skills but offers basically nothing offensively except for being able to attack the basket. The potential you speak of just isnt there for trevor,he'll basically wind up being a defensive player his whole career because he doesnt offer the offensive skill set it takes to be a good or great small forward,trevor doesnt pass well which is what small/point forwards need to be able to do,notice not one of the teams he's played on has the coach trusted trevor with the ball in his hands,he's basically a big man in a small-forwards body which is why the magic were able to get by playing him at power forward last year,otis recognized this being a former player and traded him while he still had value,again credit otis. LA took trevor becuse they needed cap space and they also didnt have a back-up at small forward,without bynum they were forced to play turiaf and walton at the 4 and 5,so trevor fit in nicely for them at the SF where they needed a scrapper because they had shooting at every other position,the trade worked for both sides but the magic got the better of the deal because trevor doesnt have the offensive skill set to make it on our squad,and i'll be willing to bet that trevor will have alot of movement in his career,shoot he's already been on what 3 teams in 4 or 5 years as a pro.

     
  • At 2:56 PM, Blogger Mike from Illinois said…

    Obviously, Jameer isn't going to grow any taller, but if the Magic can get the consistency out of him that he displayed in the playoffs, that would be a big plus.

    On the subject of grading GMs, I wonder how the two Matts would grade Bulls GM John Paxson. After doing a brilliant job cleaning up former GM Jerry Krause's mess in 2003 and building a solid team, the Bulls alarmingly regressed last season, from 49 wins the season before to 33 wins. To top it off, two respected, experienced coached who wanted to coach the Bulls (Mike D'Antoni, Doug Collins) were not hired, and the Bulls had to settle for Vinny Del Negro, who has no coaching experience. In fairness, Bulls' chairman Jerry Reinsdorf should share at least half the blame because of his tight wallet, but Paxson had a chance to trade for big names like Kobe Bryant or Pau Gasol when he was with Memphis and failed to pull the trigger.

    If the Magic somehow regress next season (hopefully not), it will only be fair to point the finger at Otis Smith, but I'm not doing that now because of the progress that was made by the Magic this past season, of which some(but not all) of the credit should go to Smith.

     
  • At 6:12 PM, Blogger Matt said…

    To me Pax is a solid GM. Probably falls into 12-20 range if you were ranking them.

    The bigger thing for that team is they have a terrible owner in Reinsdorf. They could have had Gasol, but he didn't want to go into the luxury tax. To me thats inexcusable. Your the 3rd largest market in the country. You will do very well with attendance/ticket sales as long as your not terrible for a long stretch (like post Jordan run). Last year, according to Forbes they made $60 M, 1st in the NBA.

    So I don't know how much his hands are tied.

    1) Not offering big money extensions to Deng, Gordon was smart. Shows he looks at the future free agent market.

    2) They would obviously like to get back the TT for Aldridge swap. But I thought TT was the better player at the time too...

    3) Signing Ben Wallace was obviously a mistake, but Pax was able to unload him for L Hughes which isn't too bad. On the same note, while keeping Chandler would have been better, he looks better than he really is playing with CP3 (Still not much of a back to the basket low post scorer, which what the bulls wanted out of him). He does get some nice alley-oop dunks though. I think he needed a change in coaching/offensive system/location to improve.

    4) I hated the Noah pick (all you UF fans pry hate that) for both the player and the fit. They already had the younger, more athletic version in TT. I still stand by this opinion. Noah is one of those high floor/low ceiling guys, who looks good in year 1 then fades. Hawes, or even another guard like Stuckey who I liked pre draft would have been better.

    5) The coaching fiasco has Reinsdorf written all over it, so I'm not going to put that one on Pax. If they go with Rose, which I think they should, the guy they got should be a good fit.

    6) The Hinrich extension was solid. Kinda looks bad now, but his salary goes down every year. So he should be more tradable in the future.

    http://www.storytellerscontracts.info/resources/07-08salaries.htm

    7) I don't like how they gave away JR Smith for basically nothing.

    Going forward I think they need to resign Deng.

    Draft Rose- I didn't see Beasley much, but from what I can tell he doesn't have a back to the basket game or has limited effectiveness with it, which basically makes him a SF, which basically reduces value, especially to the Bulls alot.

    Try and get rid of Hughes, Hinrich, or Gordon. Maybe for Channing Fyre, Joel Pryzibla, David Lee, Andreas Biedrins, Chris Wilcox, throw in Noah and maybe Okafor...

     
  • At 11:37 PM, Blogger Mike from Illinois said…

    Matt, I have to admit your last post was an excellent post. You're right on target what you said about Jerry Reinsdorf, who should take the majority of the blame in the Bulls' coaching fiasco.

    I always respected John Paxson as a top-notch GM until the Bulls stunning fall last season. You touched on some of Paxson's moves that backfired (drafting Thomas instead of Aldridge, signing Wallace and letting Chandler go).

    The Bulls are in position now to become a legit threat next season, thanks to winning the draft lottery, and the fact they have some pretty good veterans (Deng, Gordon, Gooden, Hinrich) they can either build around or trade if they feel they can get something good in return.

    I think they should take Rose, too with the number one pick. Former Magic PF Drew Gooden did a nice job for the Bulls until he was injured and missed the final couple weeks.

    Paxson has yet to tip his hand as to who he'll draft (Rose or Beasley). We'll see what happens.

     
  • At 1:20 PM, Blogger Matt said…

    This debate needs to be closed since it is becoming illogical:

    1 - If we all admit that SVG and Rashard had Orlando as their prime location to be at, why does it matter who was the GM? Case closed.

    2 - If the Mo Evans and Brian Cook's deal did not look good on the paper, that's all that matters at the time of the trade. What happens afterward based on the coach's brilliance or other factors contributing to the players' overachievement is irrelevant to the GM's assessment.

    3 - When I mentioned Pau Gasol's trade, as I could have mentioned Celtics' mega trade as well, I meant to point to innovative and heavy weight GMs who make deals happen rather than waiting for something that becomes available. We all knew the team's deficiencies, but Smith kept saying nothing's out there, and of course nothing was at the level that he was operating.

    Having all that said, you may judge that I have been too harsh on Otis Smith, and you might be right, but that is my view and I stick to it.

     
  • At 7:10 PM, Blogger Mike from Illinois said…

    It was actually a pretty good debate; I think we all stated our positions very clearly.

    I still stand by my original opinion, that Matt was too harsh in his grading of Otis Smith.

     
  • At 7:21 PM, Blogger Mike from Illinois said…

    On today's post at Ben Q. Rock's thirdquartercollapse.com, Ben came up with this tidbit from author Matt Kamalsky of DraftExpress about Otis Smith:

    "When it's all said and done, Otis Smith has the luxury of being able to take the top player on his draft board, a testament to how far this team has come from a few seasons ago, when it was riddled with holes."

    Yet another opinion in support of Otis.

     
  • At 1:50 AM, Blogger Mike from Illinois said…

    In fairness, there is also a fanpost on thirdquartercollapse.com from WhatAboutFran that levels criticism towards Otis Smith, though not quite as harsh on Otis as Matt's assessment.

     
  • At 3:33 PM, Blogger Big Figure said…

    I cant wait to see who otis thinks is the top player at our pick.

     
  • At 3:34 AM, Blogger Mike from Illinois said…

    I'll make a new post in a couple days about the upcoming draft, and who the Magic might be picking (unless one of you guys want to do it before I do).

     
  • At 12:31 PM, Blogger Matt said…

    Great, Mike. Go for it.

     
  • At 8:35 AM, Blogger johnrocks said…

    Yeah i totally agree mike. Not understanding how anyone can blame otis for billy the kid being a coward and not wanting to leave the easy life that is college basketball,what was otis's fault in that?
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